jonah
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Post by jonah on Sept 25, 2019 20:11:23 GMT
I see under the holding and Priovinces rules how a Province produces Artha for the owner. how much artha do holdings produce for owners?
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Post by Lidhuin on Sept 26, 2019 16:52:41 GMT
I see under the holding and Priovinces rules how a Province produces Artha for the owner. how much artha do holdings produce for owners? The same. I'm still on the fence whether provinces need a ruler (besides artha generation, there's seemingly no benefit to ruling a province).
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Post by jonah on Sept 26, 2019 19:12:09 GMT
If you remove province rulers, the one rules issue I see would be province growth. If you have rules for ruling up provinces, which holding type would have the province growth function/power?
This may not matter much in this rule set, but the other function was to that in cases where the titular ruler had a week control of the realm, such as Cariele, the levies function and revenue generation served to belance strength a little bit between ruler and Mhealiie Bireon. Without province owners the concept of a realm doesnt mean much if the realm ruler is weak in law.
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Post by Lidhuin on Sept 27, 2019 15:15:38 GMT
This is true, but also potentially thematic and not too game breaking.
Taxes aren't really a thing yet (maybe they should be, but the abstraction does make it a little harder)
Levies are mainly handled via holdings (provinces could be people, so could add units too)
It's "King of the Scots" and not Scotland, but province levels do rather represent regular people than land. So there probably should be province rulers (which encourages cooperation between like-rulers in improving provinces).
But at least to start, it seems like a better idea not to have rulers. Maybe.
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Post by jonah on Sept 27, 2019 17:14:55 GMT
If you are going to start without rulers, you could explain it that the weakened barrier made realm ownership (which is a tie to the land itself) dangerous. seepage from shadow World. Discovering that the barrier has strengthened enough to allow realm rulers could be an adventure, and that then allows realm ownership at the time that you want, and proof to the populace that the barrier is strengthening could be an important turning point for the world. \
Or not...
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Post by Lidhuin on Sept 27, 2019 19:46:06 GMT
I like it. Regardless, province levels will still be important to determine max holding levels (and Rule Province is going to be faster than in base RoE, both up and down).
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Post by Lidhuin on Jul 4, 2020 4:02:30 GMT
Rulers will be able to control and rule up provinces, and especially powerful rulers will benefit greatly from immense provinces.
But with immense provinces comes many holdings, including potentially hostile holdings, and needing to deal with more issues.
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